Screenshot link

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

Yea - lots of work.
Anywhere else they would be available with one link.

Were are going to have to discuss it and if need be, get a server somewhere else.

Only way for us to catch some of the hacks is to view screenshots and watch for radar.
Everywhere else, screenshots are made available to the public in most cases.

Kind of retarded to not allow anyone access other than the server owner and anyone he trusts not to screw around editing the server files.

Kind of stupid way to go.

[kraze]

How come we are not allowed to websync to our own website?

If your website is hosted here at NFO you can. Just not if it is hosted at another provider, as it will only work with our systems.

Yea - lots of work.
Anywhere else they would be available with one link.

Were are going to have to discuss it and if need be, get a server somewhere else.

Only way for us to catch some of the hacks is to view screenshots and watch for radar.
Everywhere else, screenshots are made available to the public in most cases.

Kind of retarded to not allow anyone access other than the server owner and anyone he trusts not to screw around editing the server files.

Kind of stupid way to go.

I think you are mis understanding what you can do or cannot do. We are not restricting you or anyone of viewing your screen shots. It makes it hard to allow people to view screen shots, when we cannot give customers full FTP access. So we use websync which will sync the files to your website. It's fast and easy. I am pretty sure about 99% of the other companies use TCA admin which has the same file manager tab as us, Without the websync option. You can use Websync and provide you a link to the world if you wish. Alternatively since you do not have webhosting you can download the files and put them somewhere else for a user to see. I am pretty sure the process would be harder or not possible at most other companies.

Adding on to this PB screen shots is something that never worked right In BF games, and are you really willing to give up the performance here just so you can view screen shots a tad bit easier if at all? You could switch then figure out 9/10 of the screen shots you took don't work, then you have left NFO and any grandfathered pricing you had.

[Edge100x]

I will look into what I can do to improve the screen shot situation for VDSes and dedicated machines, if they actually work in BF3. It won't be possible to sync them if you don't have a website here, but I will ask DICE what else we can do.

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

I think you are mis understanding what you can do or cannot do. We are not restricting you or anyone of viewing your screen shots. It makes it hard to allow people to view screen shots, when we cannot give customers full FTP access. So we use websync which will sync the files to your website. It's fast and easy. I am pretty sure about 99% of the other companies use TCA admin which has the same file manager tab as us, Without the websync option. You can use Websync and provide you a link to the world if you wish. Alternatively since you do not have webhosting you can download the files and put them somewhere else for a user to see. I am pretty sure the process would be harder or not possible at most other companies.

Adding on to this PB screen shots is something that never worked right In BF games, and are you really willing to give up the performance here just so you can view screen shots a tad bit easier if at all? You could switch then figure out 9/10 of the screen shots you took don't work, then you have left NFO and any grandfathered pricing you had.

I don't know where you get that other companies offer there screenshot by file manager. All you do is setup FTP access to the pb folder only. Pb is never restricted, and access is always required for updating scripts. Any otther company we have been with always made screenshots available through links like http://x.x.x.x/x.x.x.x/pbsvss.htm or similiar links. When I installed AA3 on our server, I had to create access to our screenshots as well. My link is http://74.201.57.251/pbsvss.htm. So it can be done and it's not as hard as you make it out to be. Sure it may be hard to do for everyone, but once it's scripted, it is all automated. Hell if I could eventually figure it out with my limited knowledge. Your only setting up a FTP account where the base root access starts with the pb folder only and the contents inside. All other game files that require editing can be done in the control panel.

I think when you say that EA restricts access to FTP and the files, your including the contents of the pb folder, which in my opinion, they really don't have the right to restrict, since the rights to these files are to Evenbalance. Evenbalance has never put restrictions on the contents of the pb folder. And I am almost sure if I was to go and put a support ticket in to them, they would say there are no restrictions. EA may have paid for the rights to all files added to their game, I don't claim to know that.

Claiming that SS never worked right for bf games may have been true with other games, but it was specifically posted on EA's or Dice's forum that there was a big effort put toward fixing the past problems, and they had worked hard in resolving this.

I downloaded about 10 screenshots last night, and the only one that was black was the first. All others appeared fine. None yet that showed as failed.

Saying that we have a choice of SS and possible lag or no SS and no lag, isn't really your call. Your not paying for the server. If the intervals for each SS are spread out far enough, it reduces the lag if there is any at all.

[marrr]

I don't know where you get that other companies offer there screenshot by file manager. All you do is setup FTP access to the pb folder only. Pb is never restricted, and access is always required for updating scripts. Any otther company we have been with always made screenshots available through links like http://x.x.x.x/x.x.x.x/pbsvss.htm or similiar links. When I installed AA3 on our server, I had to create access to our screenshots as well. My link is http://74.201.57.251/pbsvss.htm. So it can be done and it's not as hard as you make it out to be. Sure it may be hard to do for everyone, but once it's scripted, it is all automated. Hell if I could eventually figure it out with my limited knowledge. Your only setting up a FTP account where the base root access starts with the pb folder only and the contents inside. All other game files that require editing can be done in the control panel.

I think when you say that EA restricts access to FTP and the files, your including the contents of the pb folder, which in my opinion, they really don't have the right to restrict, since the rights to these files are to Evenbalance. Evenbalance has never put restrictions on the contents of the pb folder. And I am almost sure if I was to go and put a support ticket in to them, they would say there are no restrictions. EA may have paid for the rights to all files added to their game, I don't claim to know that.

Claiming that SS never worked right for bf games may have been true with other games, but it was specifically posted on EA's or Dice's forum that there was a big effort put toward fixing the past problems, and they had worked hard in resolving this.

I downloaded about 10 screenshots last night, and the only one that was black was the first. All others appeared fine. None yet that showed as failed.

Saying that we have a choice of SS and possible lag or no SS and no lag, isn't really your call. Your not paying for the server. If the intervals for each SS are spread out far enough, it reduces the lag if there is any at all.

Exactly.. There are other GSP's out there that are letting people have access to the PB folder via FTP. I had access to the PB folder for BC2 at my last provider.

Files which may be accessible to the server admin
EA decides which files the RSP may make available to the admin. It is up to each RSP how to facilitate this, and the extent to which access is given. The list below contains all the files which the RSP is allowed to give the server admin full access to:
Admin/*.txt
pb/svss/*
pb/svlogs/*
pb/*.cfg
pb/pbbans.dat
pb/pbucon.use
pb/sv_viol.log
pb/sv_cheat.log

Kalms from DICE letting people know they can have access to the pb folder via ftp for BC2. I'm sure the same applies now.. btw this was posted on pbbans.com

[Edge100x]

Shoot, you guys seem to have missed my last post.

[kraze]

All very understandable. We figured websync would be decent for users, but didn't consider VDS/dedi so much. Most VDS/dedi customers also have websites just so they can use fast download..etc.

So VDS/dedi's got a little overlooked in the long run. We still aren't restricting you from viewing screen shots, it just isn't as easy as you want it to be. As John said in several post back we will work on making it easier for the VDS/dedi scene.

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

I made an error in saying the pb folder should be available, or unclear.
The file manager in the control panel suites fine if editing, uploading, etc are available.

For screenshots, an FTP user account has to be created with no password, and Read-Only permissions for the folder pb\svss\. Then screenshots should be available for a link like http://www.serverip/pbsvss.htm. PB creates it's own index of the screenshots so nothing is required to be added to pb. Just requires the access to enable a link.

I agree at this point with nothing setup, it is a big job to manually do all your customers, so figuring out how to automate it would be the task. Unless you leave it as by request only, where if asked, you set it up manually.

I also agree, msgpbssv should be included in the svss folder. it's a great webviewer for SS.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, we run it on our AA3 server.

Standard Screenshot link: http://74.201.57.251/pbsvss.htm

msgpbssv Web Viewer: http://74.201.57.251/msgpbssv.html

With msgpbssv, you can view individual players by name, and view by 15 min. intervals.

[Edge100x]

We have no plans to run webservers on our game server machines, as this would introduce performance and security implications. Been there, done that, learned our lesson many years ago.

The FTP may be possible, and I will investigate it.

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

Myself I wouldn't want webservers, and the msgpbsv isn't that.
It's just a file you upload into the svss folder and allows easier viewing of screenshots.

The FTP access is all that is needed.
Just to allow the link to work.

[Edge100x]

Any http:// link involves a webserver.

[dapriest]

Myself I wouldn't want webservers, and the msgpbsv isn't that.
It's just a file you upload into the svss folder and allows easier viewing of screenshots.

The FTP access is all that is needed.
Just to allow the link to work.

Your limited knowledge is starting to show more and more when you post.

I don't mind buying webhosting from NFO since it's only $2.99/month but can I get all my servers screenshots on it from my VDS?

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

Any http:// link involves a webserver.

I don't have a webserver on my unmanaged server.
I just setup FTP user with no password for the folder and it works.

http://74.201.57.251/ shows the files
http://74.201.57.251/pbsvss.htm shows their index file.

[dapriest]

Any http:// link involves a webserver.

I don't have a webserver on my unmanaged server.
I just setup FTP user with no password for the folder and it works.

http://74.201.57.251/ shows the files
http://74.201.57.251/pbsvss.htm shows their index file.

LOL...yea what listening on port 80 aka http:// then? Not a web server?

[.=QUACK=.Major.Pain]

Your can also setup the pb webtool.
It uses a port to allow the page to appear, but it's not a webserver.

I will set mine up later.